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WASHINGTON, D.C. – Today, U.S. Senator Angus King (I-ME) challenged a Trump Administration nominee to outline and justify looming, arbitrary firings that at the Department of Defense that could wreak havoc on national security functions. In a tense exchange during a hearing of the Senate Armed Services Committee (SASC), King pressed Stephen Feinberg, nominee to become the Deputy Secretary of Defense, on whether he would support and institute the continued arbitrary firings of officials across the Department of Defense (DoD) without coming up with a rational process that wouldn’t diminish America’s national security programs.

The hearing comes as the DoD announced a reevaluation of the probationary workforce which seeks to reduce the civilian workforce by 5-8%, including 5,400 probationary workers released just this week. However, probationary employees can also include those recently promoted or transferred from other departments, and not necessarily those that are in “redundant” positions.

Senator King began, “I know there has been a great deal of discussion about potential cuts in the workforce. I am interested in the discussion of 8%, that’s 70,000 people. What I'm interested in of you as a manager, how do you intend to go about that? The cuts that have been occurring throughout the federal government so far have not been very thoughtful. All probationary people, for example, that is not a terribly rational way to make these decisions. There may be great people who are probationary. What will the process be whereby you reduce the Department of Defense workforce by 70,000 people?...I am asking you if that approach is a rational way to reduce a workforce. Fire everyone who has been hired in the last couple of years. Is that a good management practice? Is that what you would have done at [Feinberg’s company]Cerberus?”

“I will say we have over 900,000 civilian employees. While every person counts and is very important, there will be some change,” Mr. Feinberg replied.

Senator King responded, “That is not my question. There has been a stated goal of reducing the workforce by 8%, 70,000 people. You are the chief operating officer. Presumably you will be in charge of the process of reducing the workforce by 70,000 people. I want to know how you will do it and are you going to use the arbitrary yardstick of probationary employees, yes or no?”

“I don't know the considerations or the detail before that cut. What I can tell you, if I am in there, we will carefully look at the cuts, balance and weigh what we need and what we don't, and do it in a granular person by person way,” Mr. Feinberg answered.

“Does that answer mean you will not cut all probationary employees arbitrarily? Is that a no? It sounded like it. It is a straightforward question. Are you going to fire all probationary employees first to get to the 70,000, yes or no?” Senator King asked again.

Mr. Feinberg continued to not respond, “I have to look at the detail. I don't know yet. I don't know the considerations that were thought through before those cuts were made.”

“You are a smart guy. I don't understand why you cannot tell me yes or no whether this will be one of the tools you use to reduce the workforce,” Senator King concluded.

Senator King has been consistently sounding the alarm on President Donald Trump’s existential threat to the Constitution and critical functions of government. He most recently gave a speech on the Senate Floor acknowledging the “thoughtless and dangerous” approach to the administration’s arbitrary firings and hiring freezes. He also previously gave a speech on the Senate floor sharing that this administration is doing ‘exactly what the Framers [of the Constitution] most feared” in removing the checks and balances each branch of the government has on each other.

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